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what I've seen as far as I'm concerned

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is the most inexplicable frightening

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series of events in the last four nights

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that I've ever gone through

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and we've got a 10 and a 12 year old boy

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here in Newfield New York

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who um

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has seen something which I think that

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very few people have been sorry thanks a

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privileged to witness they looked inside

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of a spacecraft two nights ago in Saudi

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occupants

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they had a very clear view of it and an

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insecurable or walkie-talkie radio and I

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just uh we had one flower for us and

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four of us in the backyard

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and flashing red white and green lights

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and a brilliant white beam shower off

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the middle of it it got rid of the

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topless

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and uh I could tell you the whole

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chronological resume what's happened it

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might take me three or four minutes I

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don't know if you've got that much time

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or not go ahead why don't you run right

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through it well love again Monday night

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quarter to eight when I I I'm a sales

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representative and I was coming from

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Dryden New York which is 10 12 miles

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from Ithaca

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and uh I got adjacent to the Tompkins

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County Airport and I noticed two red

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lights which seem to be hanging in the

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sky about 200 feet off the highway and

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at the time at that moment that's

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leading moment I thought it was a you

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know a tower they put lights on to keep

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the planes away and I drove by it and I

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had my my stereo on in my car and uh I

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looked over my left shoulder and I

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noticed that the light began to move and

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they passed me and this time there was a

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third light on top or full of red

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flasher and these lights were awfully

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bright and I to restore and turned my

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stereo down and I couldn't hear any

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noise and it struck you know it didn't

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appall me at the time because I you know

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it I was near an airport and I just

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associated with him I thought it was a

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little half plane taken off and then I

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watched it disappear in the distance and

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uh yeah it got kind of dismissed it you

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know and later it began to bug me the

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next day I called the airport and asked

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them if they had a plane with only red

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lights on I said no they didn't every

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plane they have has got a white Beacon

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and a green light on one of the Wings

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you know One Wing is red and One Wing is

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green and they have another red light on

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and of course there was nothing taken

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off at that particular time I asked them

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that and then I called again and spoke

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with a mechanic up there and described

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what I'd seen and he said it's not like

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nothing they had I then I thought well

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gee I saw something big deal so uh

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two days later which was uh

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which uh was it Wednesday Wednesday

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I was up in Newfield at my girl's house

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and we were talking and she said she

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said did you hear about the boy in the

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field you saw Flying Saucer I said no I

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didn't

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to him and I went down and I spoke with

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him I spoke with several boys and they

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told me this unbelievable story at the

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time it was unbelievable and I believe

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it now they were out and back and they

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noticed uh red lights hanging in the sky

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with flashers coming around the rim they

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described it as a rim hovering in back

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at her house this was Wednesday night

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about about 10 o'clock and they were

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playing with walkie-talkie radios

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the thing went around the house at an

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altitude of about 200 feet making

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absolutely no noise across the street

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over a Tavern called the White House and

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a new field and hovered over a house

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next to it tilled it down at about a 45

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degree angle and this boy stood right on

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the porch two boys stood right on the

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porch looked up into it

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said there were two Square Windows

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divided by a metal bar they looked

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inside of this thing

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two of the weirdest looking beings this

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boy describes it you wouldn't believe

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his description uh we're looking at him

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he saw behind them and saw a control

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panel slanted against the far wall with

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a with what he described were red white

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and green lights flashing sequence

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across it and all the way around the rim

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of this thing there were red white and

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green lights flashing on the bottom

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there were red white and green lights

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which were stationary like a landing

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gear he didn't use the word term landing

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gear he just said it was something on

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the bottom of it displayed to astounding

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uh sketch of this thing on the top was

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an antenna sticking out now here's the

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remarkable part of the story the whole

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ring is remarkable but here's another

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highlight you might call it the other

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walkie-talkies

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he turned it on and he pointed it at the

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spacecraft you know it's a wonderful

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Lane a young boy's mind they didn't

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register fear they were just you know

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intensely curious they either run the

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house uh he played the walking tonti up

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and as he cut the on button this thing

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began to obsolete

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and then once he talks he just screamed

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and he left an eye on this thing

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oscillated and all of a sudden it took

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off and left and the next night it came

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back but it didn't come close enough for

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an occupant sighting it just circled the

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house

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anyway he told me this Wednesday and

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Wednesday night we came I had brought a

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friend of mine up here who had never

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believed in him we just got out here and

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back we watched the most fantastic

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spectacle I have ever seen in my life

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we saw some come in low with red white

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green flashes we saw some that just

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missed the Treetops that were red bright

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red

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over the top of us going due north every

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one of these things had a pattern where

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these monstrous glowing Globes which was

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just a steady course like they really

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knew where they were going we looked up

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to the right uh way up high was this

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great big globe and dropping off from it

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was a white flasher and it just like it

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was like an air like a plane I was

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aboard an aircraft carrying maybe it

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looked like a plane taken off the deck

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of a carrier and they can and then they

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disappeared then a jet fighter came

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through

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and uh God what can I tell you uh one

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hung over the trees a glowing globe and

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uh I broke this boy up a dog with a

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sparking and and he went to the window

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and told me Larry he's always dreaming

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I I've got a two photographs of the of

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the most unbelievable Footprints you've

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ever seen it's it's not as big as mine I

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take a size 10 and a half uh this is

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half as big as mine and it's got splayed

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toes way out and little narrow high

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instep and a little t uh heel on it and

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it was walking along with a horse's

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track off the main Highway up there and

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this went on last night too

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uh what was I going to tell you oh we

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were out in the backyard Wednesday night

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and uh overcomes this uh this thing with

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all the flashes on and it's just showing

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up we got right over the top of us in

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this bright Beacon brightest light I've

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ever seen on egg crap being dried out of

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it for about three seconds and then just

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which one

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I'm sorry that was Thursday night I'm

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very sorry that was Thursday night and

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yesterday afternoon my girlfriend and I

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stood out in the yard here

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and we saw and I know you won't believe

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this I follow my own eyes

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the a craft that I I would estimate to

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be a half a mile long it looked like two

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it looked like two aircraft carriers in

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broad daylight and it was right

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silhouetted against this blue sky and it

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just disappeared into some clouds and

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simultaneously further overhead there

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was a jet and this jet was leaving a

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long contrail and this thing was a solid

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silver object it looked at the

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absolutely enormous I just can't believe

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it ain't that big to be in the air

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and uh this again I say this has gone on

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for oh this oh you want this is um this

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is remarkable last night mind you

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my my girlfriends

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sister and her husband

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had been up here and they witnessed all

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this aerial phenomenon and her husband

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came up for the explicit purpose of

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ridiculing us and this guy was so

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frightened he left here 11 o'clock that

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he was almost afraid to walk outside to

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his car they got in the car and drove to

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Ithaca 15 minutes later the phone rang

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his wife wasn't hysterics he could

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hardly speak they had encountered a

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monstrous

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object hanging over some houses in

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Ithaca with stationary lights and as

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soon as they pull off the highway to

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look at it the lights went out and we

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drove down there later and every garbage

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Cannon area was tipped over only where

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that thing was hovered just like some

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massive disturbance had knocked them all

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over the place and there were no other

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garbage cans on the street like if

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there's been a wind you know it wouldn't

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have it wouldn't have had that effect

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has there been any other reaction from

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anybody else in Ithaca that you know of

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sir I called I called on your State

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Police what what night John when did

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that Trooper come up here Thursday night

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he got here about 9 15. and he got out

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of his car

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and he looked at us like you know with

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this incredulous look like we're all

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insane I said I know what you were going

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to say I said but just stand here will

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you please for a few minutes he came out

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he came on back of the house stood there

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for approximately five minutes and one

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went over a big glowing one time to go

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north you know I said what do you think

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that is

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he didn't say his mouth just dropped

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and then at the same time my

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girlfriend's sister was screaming around

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the house we all ran around the house

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including the trooper and coming in low

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over Route 13 was This brilliant bright

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red glowing object with unbelievably red

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lights on it and it just missed the tops

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of the hills and disappeared at the same

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time to our left comes this white

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flasher with this tremendous flashing

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sequence of red green and white all over

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it

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and that copy couldn't say a thing I

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said you know I think they're landing on

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Connecticut Hill Connecticut Hill is a

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deadly area where they hunt deer it's

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about 100 square miles and nothing and

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he told me and I quote he says I'm not

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going up there he got his car and he

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drove away later I called him the truth

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somebody somebody called I can't

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remember was near somebody but the

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official explanation he gave them he had

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seen jet planes on maneuvers I call

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Hancock Air Force Base Syracuse New York

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I said I think I told him everything

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that I told you and you know what that

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guy told me

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he says we'll file it Through official

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channels and I said well thanks a hell

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of a lot then I hung up

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and that was about two o'clock in the

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morning and the Jet Plane did come

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through here that night it came in real

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low and I know a jet fighter it was a

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jet fighter and it swooped right through

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and it circled and then it disappeared

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and at the same time that jet fighter

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was coming through there was another UFO

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higher going the opposite direction and

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last night I didn't see this personally

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but the boys who looked into the one

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Tuesday night

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said that they had witnessed a jet being

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followed by a UFO close behind me

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I think I've covered everything that's

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of any significance sir there's one

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question I have and it's not that I uh

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it's an epic that I have any doubt at

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all about what you told me but there's

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one thing that bothers me I think uh Mr

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Orr and that is this

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how come you didn't take any pictures of

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any of these things random photography

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I've tried I looked through the Nissan

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where's your car or anybody uh with you

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know uh cameras anything and nobody's

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interested they all stop I should

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ridicule you you can't see anything

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through that viewfinder it's nothing you

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look up in the sky and you see nothing

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but black little kitty camera and then

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as much as all these uh sightings took

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place over a number of days I thought

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maybe you might have a camera or

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somebody with a camera there uh this is

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of course what we need you know

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is to get somebody working is to get

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some pictures

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and let them try and dispute that I got

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photographs of a footprint footprint is

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gone now it's been obliterated

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but uh you do have the have you had the

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prince have you had the camera the

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fourth photographs is in color so

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there's four pictures to be taken yet

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but uh one one thing is everything is

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significance of course but

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it's in the pattern great big glowing

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what's going on

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the little red ones Mr trees flashers go

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everywhere

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just like they know exactly what they're

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doing

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Newfield is right near Ithaca right yes

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sir

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and you say Connecticut Hill is that

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what it's called Connecticut Hill is a

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desolate area which it extends

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field

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right on back around is there any water

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around there yes sir there's Cuba Lake

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there's Cayuga Lake uh a woman down in

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cayuta has seen one of these things I

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try to talk to her on the phone she

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wouldn't talk to me she said see I got

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to me through my girlfriend's mother she

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worked for her she said she saw a bright

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blowing objects over her son and they

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wouldn't talk about it but nobody seems

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interested down here and I'm appalled

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especially not what I've seen you know

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I've seen things okay a lot of people

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have seen them but what this little

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Downy shazar and Pat Crozier saw 10 and

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12 years old as far as I'm concerned I

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would think that anybody with any with

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any semblance of intelligence or the

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scientific nature would want to talk to

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them has there been any press reports at

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all about this I don't know what's

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susceptible all right have you talked to

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anybody from the newspapers no sir nope

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am I the first reporter you talked to

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First reporter you're the first report I

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talked to I talked to Dr Conan from uh

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a situation like this can exist and it's

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the implications are rather startling

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and everybody's concerned on their dust

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and uh takes this apathetic attitude you

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know including the police including the

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Air Force the sheriff's laugh at me

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that's why I I'm I'm so disappointed

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that you weren't able to get some

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photographs of this because it sounds to

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me like you really have something here

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and with photography and jam this lasts

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right down their throats you see that's

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what they look like there's a piece of

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light in the sky

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you had something if you've got a

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picture of this thing that looked like

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two battleships that would have been a

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beauty guy that's what I mean it was

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unbelievable and I could have got I

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could have photographed that too it was

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in bright daylight yeah

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Sandy come here quick that's why I

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thought you might be carrying a camera

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around with you at all times the camera

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was right inside the house if I'd only

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had the camera I could have I could have

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snapped it visible for a half a minute

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this is what you need and if you had

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that with a jet overhead my God you know

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this would be tremendous that would have

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showed up something certainly because it

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was a definite solid object my first

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bleeding impression was when I thought

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that it was a jet living a contrail I

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looked and looked and look and it was an

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absolute silver solid object and then I

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heard this roll overhead and up close

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this great big jet overhead leaving your

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country all mile long things just kept

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going to my right steady and then it

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went into this all cloudy to my right

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and I was cursing the clouds quite

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frankly well if you had a photograph

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yeah that thing was so your name was

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what sir Joe barbaric Mr barbarette that

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thing was so big I can't even believe

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anything that big could fly it looked

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uh let me say this that uh I have no

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reason to dispute or doubt you at all

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absolutely not and I uh my mind is uh

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open enough to uh to accept any of this

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and all of it

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I just wish you or somebody whoever some

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you know with with some influence or

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something that's like I I commented

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Fuller this morning I spoke with his

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wife somebody could come here and talk

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to these two boys they've really got

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something to offer what they saw was you

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want to hear the description it's just

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it's incredible what they saw

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for close 200 feet away looking right at

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him they saw the controls they saw the

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control panel a flashing lights the

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buttons the windows everything was hung

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right there in the air just stopped

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right across the street from them it's

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incredible

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people in it you want to hear the

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description of the people in it

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let's take this boy he almost cried when

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I laughed at him the first time he told

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me so I didn't believe it quite frankly

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that's incredible

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absolutely walkie-talkie he said that

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thing just just vibrated oscillated all

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over this all over the place when he

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turned that walkie-talkie in

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hmm

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all right well look uh do you have any

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objection at all to my using anything

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that you said this afternoon to me and

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how about your name my name is Orr

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oh what am I using your name no sir okay

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you are from Ithaca yes sir and you're a

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all right I don't know how much I can do

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on it but we can make some noise down

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here anyway

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and uh I'll see if I can't uh get the

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the wire Services uh involved in this

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you may be getting some phone calls I

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that's okay with me uh George early it

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was extremely interesting in uh and who

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is also uh very influential in nycap and

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it was as knowledgeable as anybody on

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UFOs

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is extremely interested also but of

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course he's extremely busy too

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uh is there an icap organization in

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Ithaca did you know if I didn't even

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check all right I don't believe there is

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though yeah you said the word

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nightcapinetica and they look at you

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like you know you're spoken in a foreign

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language well I'm quite confident that

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somebody from nightcaps going to be in

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touch with you soon if somebody's going

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to investigate this so no question about

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it I think it should definitely be

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investigated too well let me thank you

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very very much for talking to me yes sir

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and incidentally everything I've seen

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other people have seen it with me I mean

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we're not all blind and I want you to